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Youtube Content ID System Updates

January 23, 2013

I apologize for the lack of updates these last few months. I initially had to wait for the waiting periods of many of my Content ID disputes to end (each one takes a month to process) and after that I was swept up in the holiday rush and hadn’t had time or focus to return to this blog.

Both of these articles are old news now, but I thought I’d share them anyway: last October, Youtube finally made an update to the Content ID system, allowing for an appeals process. While this seemed like good news at first, as Patrick McCay explains on his website FairUseTube, the updates aren’t really that effective at all. In the case of this little experiment, The Youtube Public Domain Resource, the updates have certainly not helped whatsoever. Every single false claim I had to dispute which was reinstated after the updates were implemented did not come with any appeals option, saying that making an appeal was not available for my Youtube account because my account is apparently not “eligible.” No explanation for this was given; presumably my account is not “in good standing” despite my successfully disputing every single false claim so far. I don’t see any notice anywhere that my account is not “in good standing,” however.

The update was covered by Ars Technica here and was announced on Youtube’s official blog here.

In the official Youtube blog post announcement, I was quite fascinated by this statement: “Of course, we take action in rare cases of intentional misuse, up to and including terminating Content ID access.I would really like to hear of some specific cases in which this happened, as, from what I’ve read from various Youtube users, it sounds like “intentional misuse” of Content ID is anything but “rare,” and yet I’ve never heard of a Content ID system fraudster facing any consequences.

So, before I sign off, I’ll give you some basic updates about my Youtube “experiments” over the last several months: I have, from September on, uploaded every single track of The Open Goldberg Variations by Kimiko Ishizaka. I have also had a false copyright claim made by some music publisher or some other entity on, if memory serves me correctly, every single upload. Lastly, I’ve successfully had every single one of those false claims removed, some by simply disputing the claim on Youtube, others after sending an email to the claimant. I’m happy that it is possible to upload Ishizaka’s work to Youtube without false copyright claims permanently dragging them down after all, but I’m disheartened that it takes so much work to resolve, and that false claims, while a solvable problem in these cases, are so widespread and persistent. In several cases, false claims were reinstated after I disputed them, only for an email to the claimant to get a reply, and get the false claims removed, several weeks or over a month later.

Since uploading The Open Goldberg Variations, I’ve yet to try any further public domain source-uploading experiments. I hope to begin doing so again in the near future, though other personal projects keep me busy (which brings me to an open call for assistance, which I’ll get to in a moment). Before I do anymore uploads, I would like to collect all my records from the Open Goldberg Variations uploads and post them here as an easily-accessible resource.

Now, before I conclude, I would like to ask for a bit of help. An astute reader pointed out that my introductory posts and “About” page are extremely long-winded and wordy, and he is correct. I wrote them quickly, as rough drafts, trying to cover as much information as possible and being as detailed as possible (I felt this was appropriate, given that this blog does deal with legal/terms of service issues and such things tend to involve excessively wordy, long-winded writing and incredible thoroughness). I planned to revise/edit them to make them more easily readable, however, procrastinator as I am, I’ve yet to get around to it. Without help, I may find time to do this eventually, but I hate seeing the essential information buried in my rushed, bloated writing. If anyone would like to volunteer to take the essential information in my introductory posts and my “About” page and revise/edit them down to something much simpler and much easier to read, please let me know. If someone steps up to do this, I’ll make another post announcing it so that more than one person doesn’t put in a great deal of effort to accomplish the same thing. Once someone has volunteered (if anyone does) and I announce it, feel free to just go ahead and copy-and-paste the stuff into a word processor and then email the edited versions for me. I’ll be sure to include attribution for whoever does the work. Normally I would try to do this myself, but I have a number of other projects going on right now, and The Youtube Public Domain Resource wasn’t meant to be a vanity project anyway; I’d be more than happy to have help.

I think that covers everything for now.

All the best,

Leo Kirke


From → Introduction

  1. I uploaded a video to YouTube yesterday that uses the Aria da capo e fine played by Kimiko Ishizaka as part of the Open Goldberg project and within hours have a copyright dispute from UMPG Publishing that I am challenging.

    A few hours later my Dispute was rejected and the claim by UMPG Publishing has been reinstated.

    Today I have appealed against this.

    In my appeal I pointed out that this is not the first time use of this music on YouTube has run into problems and pointed to this site.

    I am so grateful to you Leo for sharing your experience. Without it is debatable whether I would have pursued fighting it or just given up and used another piece of music.

    The one thing that annoys me about the process is all done on the YouTube site and I am not able to access the pages once I have submitted my response. I have received no email confirmation of this claim or my appeal.

  2. Well Leo, it seems your persistence and hard work dealing with YouTube had some benefits. The copyright dispute has been removed a lot speedier than your experience thankfully. I am sure that pointing to this site was instrumental in getting it resolved so quickly.

    • Hi again!

      I’m really glad this site was useful to you, despite it’s incompleteness and lack of recent updates. I have a whole list of the steps I went through to dispute false claims against the Open Goldberg Variations project music from last fall that I’ve yet to update here. I was able to successfully dispute each one, but it took a lot of time, and in many cases, direct emails to corporations whose contact addresses were not easy to find. I’ll try and update this blog in the near future and include those addresses.

      One annoying thing about the whole situation, that I’ve only noticed recently, is that some copyright claims do not get emailed to you. I mean that Youtube does not always inform me when there is a copyright claim against material in one of my videos, so unless I just check the “My Channel” option regularly, one might slip past me for ages without me knowing. It also means that when I do update my experiences from last fall here, the claims I got resolved might have been replaced by even MORE false claims.

      Oddly enough I was considering, due to my lack of follow-through on this project, closing this blog down. But seeing that it’s helped at least one person has changed my mind. Thanks so much for your kind words, and for sharing your experiences! I’d hoped that at least a few people would share their experiences here and that it might have a positive impact.


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